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[Marcsss]

Und das kannst Du sicher deshalb beurteilen, weil deine universitäre Durchschnittsnote genauso wie meine 1,1 ist.

Ich halte mich da an die Sichtweise derer, die an der Universität mindestens bei 1,5 liegen. Mit denen kann man sich ganz gut unterhalten.

[Kramer]

[Hornochse]

[Hornochse]

Was studierst du überhaupt?
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Alles könnte anders sein - und fast nichts kann ich ändern.

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[Yamato]

[Hornochse]

[Kramer]

[narziss]

[Yamato]

[Hornochse]

[rotwang]

[Kramer]

[Yamato]

[narziss]

Lustigerweise gibt es keinen Biologie-Nobelpreis.

[Hornochse]

[Kramer]

[narziss]

Ich weiß nicht so recht, ob ich glauben soll, dass er ein Studium abgeschlossen hat.

[Yamato]

Das ist ja nur das Vordiplom.

[Kramer]

Das wird ja immer besser:

http://beepworld.de/members65/anreiz/nobelpreisgeschehen.htm

[DeHerg]

[Critic]

[Arrivederci]

[Shadaik]

[Alchemist]

[narziss]

[Arrivederci]

[Marcsss]

http://beepworld.de/members65/anreiz/zum-begruender-der-aw.htm


Ich hab die Sache so verstanden, dass die ältere Wurzel des Wortes Kirche nichts mit Gott zu tun gehabt habe, aber dieser Punkt ist mir nicht wichtig. Ich bestehe trotzdem auf den gleichen Privilegien, und das wird mit dem Wort Kirche ausgedrückt.

Evolutionspsychologie ist mein Hauptschwerpunkt, über den Dawkins auch viel schreibt.

Bibel ist schon oft umgangsprachlich gebraucht worden für wichtige Bücher. Die Wortwurzel heißt meines Wissens nur einfach Buch.

Dawkins stellt alle zentralen Fragen richtig, aber die Antwort, der er 1978 extrem nahe war, ist ihm zufällig nicht gekommen, vielleicht, weil sein Schwerpunkt nicht Evolutions-Psychologie ist.

Der Nobelpreis sollte glaube ich in Verhaltens-Physiologie angestrebt werden.

Im Abitur hatte ich Bio 1. Nach der überraschenden (Prüferwechsel) 3 habe ich mich später extrem gründlich in die Evolutionsbiologie eingearbeitet.

Bei der Hotelbeurteilung schaden sich die Falschbeurteiler nicht selber, bei den Wohlfühlnoten würden sie ihr gesamtes Leben beschädigen. Also würden sie zwar Bestechungsgelder annehmen (vorausgesetzt, sie scheuen nicht das neue drakonische Strafmass dafür), aber bei den völlig geheimen Wahlen doch im Eigeninteresse realistische Wohlfühlnoten abgeben.

Ich war in den Prüfungen völlig entspannt, da ich aus der Gruppenarbeit mit meinen Studienkollegen immer genau wusste, welchen Wissensvorsprung ich habe. Und dann haben auch 3 Professoren nach den Prüfungen nochmal extra positive schriftliche Stellungnahmen besonders auch über meine damaligen Theorie-Neuentwicklungen abgegeben. Was im Internet steht, ist ja nur ein Teil der Stellungnahmen.

Hier noch, was man bei Dawkins sagt:

Very good you told us about it. But sad my german is almost zero or nil. I knew a few words some thirty years ago but all "worter" are gone now. Keine worter, keine ubung, keine motivationen zu vieder lernen können. Haha hope grammar is not verschrechlish. spelling might be though. When I was most ambitious I listen to DW uber kurzwelle but nothing came out of it. And the worst. Don't get angry at or with me now but American English are more cool and have higher status.

Sorry derail. A church of us atheists. Well you have to keep us informed about the practical parts.

Do you meet once a month or once a week. Which day and time. Do you have singing or reading poetry, do you have a kind of "Essay" or Speech or what. Education? What do you do for fun in your church? Go fishing or playing fuzzballe?

So we need many different churches to let us meet like minded. I kind of agree with this. I would not go to an Ayn Rand kind of Church. Not to a Post-modern Atheistic Church either.

I hope you stay and give us more about your church. You know there are two or more atheistic churches in Texas US.
http://www.hcof.org/


About Us
Why do we call ourselves a "Church"?

CHURCH is EXACTLY what we are about. We are committed to providing a sanctuary for rational human beings who want to gather voluntarily in a place where they can contemplate life on earth with all it's glory; where rational humans can celebrate the passages of life's important events like births, marriages, and deaths; where families can assemble with core values they wish to pass on to their children through the effective device of Sunday schools; where music can be played that lifts the human spirit; where physical symbols of science can be appreciated; where a true (real) sense of community can be expressed through charitable activities... and ALL without the slightest hint or need for the irrational concept known as "god."

Atheists, agnostics, skeptics, and freethinkers are still human beings and have real human social, emotional, and "spiritual" needs. Being among like (rational) minded people on a regular basis provides that vital emotional and social support to those of us in a vastly theistic society. The need for community and fellowship does not disappear when we decline to believe in supernaturalism.


They write that it is rather popular. Whole families come and they have play for the children. A good way for atheists to find new friends among a hostile environ with many Christian Churches.emoreality
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Re: The God Delusion gave us the idea to start Atheistic Church
by Marcsss on Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:58 pm

I hope, in some time we will have a happiness-bringing social community life here in Germany too. I will read a bit more about this american atheistic church.

I think, for us nature science means more possibilities for a lustfull life, than I would expect in America.
Massage usw.

[Marcsss]

The most important thing, that believing in gods has destroyed, is the joy coming out of body contact in all different forms. About this there will be nature-science-discussion, and whoever wants to be free of suppression, can experiment.
Conflicts get rare in a community of people loving each other, because of bodily contacts. The rest of conflicts will be solved by new, evolutionary-Theory-based forms of Mediation=conflict-solving.
Pleasure, lust in life will result.
And there is new nature-science-based knowledge about how not to get ill.

[Marcsss]

In german TV, Richard Dawkins yesterday was attacked by a preacher, who was full of pity about the lack of intelligence, Richard Dawkins would show with his "nihilism".
Same happens here: Human beings of different levels of brain capacities attack each other. Discussion is not possible, because brain capacities set boarders and virus-memes produce misbehaviour.
The preacher believes, he is the intelligent one, and Dawkins the stupid one.
I believe, Dawkins is the intelligent one, and the preacher is the stupid one.
Most readers in the forum believe, I am the stupid one, and they are the intelligent ones.
And I am convinced, those are the stupid ones, and I am the one with the more precise inner model of Evolution of Genes and also Memes.
No discussion can help. Only when brain capacities are very similar, discussion could be possible. For such a person I am waiting. A behaviour-desease it is, when Beleidigungen, severe unfair attacks are made. Judges on court punish those behaviours.
I dont attack anyone. I just say, we are different. It is only possible, to refer to hints:
In school und university my values were always between very good and good, most times closer to very good. Many professors wrote statements about my extraordinary scientific intelligence.
Whoever had always very good, has a good hint for the idea, that he could be right and I could be wrong. I would be interested to hear, what he has to say.
But when people, who had good values, just attack unfairly, they dont have good hints, that they are right and I am wrong. But preachers of all sorts are always sure, that Dawkins and me are the stupid ones...

The doctors, in german HalfGods in white..., in German TV talked about the hell fires, a mother will get, because she gives her breasts to her five-year-old child, the child will get insane... So Half-gods and journalists fight against body-contact like gods and their preachers do. This is a memetic point of view. Masturbation causes deseases of the spine... Same procedure as every year...
Dawkins was writing about all the deeds, which were meant positively, but in fact are of absolute cruelty. Thats what Half-Gods and journalists do.

Incentives give direction to the evolution of memes and so behaviours. But when there are little unseen mistakes in the way, incentives are set, catastrophies will follow...
Unconscious memetic processes are no conspiracies. But similar attacks come in every bad discussion...

-The "sermons" could be laymen-friendly lectures on financial advice, family life, or social psychology. The "Sunday school" classes can be kid-friendly versions of these. Two hours on a late Sunday morning for things like these seems a good idea... don't you guys think so? You could have bake sales to raise money for charities etc.-
I agree. God-believers give lots of money for spreading their nonsense, but atheists give nothing to fight this nonsense. So God-believers dominate the society...

[Marcsss]

Dawkins writes about the differently constructed models of reality different species and individuums have. We know about this, and so we are tolerant. In our Atheistic church there can be groups, who believe in Half-Gods-in-White, and so on. But without social life and cooperation, Atheists and scientist are unimportant in society. They dont have any influence. Only pseudo-scientist are used by journalists to strengthen manipulative memes...